The Votes Are In! What Do We Know?

Your 2017 Hall of Fame class is official.  Despite the efforts of some idiotic writers, the BBWAA have managed to vote in some new members to the Baseball Hall of Fame today.  Jeff Bagwell (381 votes, 86.2%) , Tim Raines (380 votes, 86.0%), and Ivan Rodriguez (336 votes, 76.0%) have made the cut.

There are a lot of interesting things we have learned from this year’s results.

  • Trevor Hoffman (327 votes, 74.0%) and Vladimir Guerrero (317 votes, 71.7%) just missed the 75% required cutoff.

Bonds gained 9.5% to 53.8% support while Clemens gained 8.9% to 54.1%. Those are nice gains, but not enough to suggest their election is inevitable. They still need 46% of “no” votes to swing to “yes” votes. (That’s a thumbnail assessment. The actual voting bloc is fluid because of writers who are subtracted or added to the voting rolls.)

  • Mike Mussina received a nice bump, but is still struggling to receive votes, raising his total this year from 43 to 51.8.  Moose watch will continue.
  • Curt Schilling, who can’t manage to shut the fuck up saw his stock drop from 53.3% to 45% this year.
  • Trevor Hoffman and Vlad Guerrero will likely make it in next year.
  • Edgar Martinez is still struggling to get votes and could be stuck on the fringe with just two years of eligibility remaining unless he receives a massive Tim Raines bump next year.
  • Jeff Kent continues to struggle stuck between 14 and 16.7% for four years.
  • Larry Walker stuck between 10.2 and 22.9% over the past seven years.
  • Fred McGriff between 11.7 and 23.9 for eight years now and likely won’t make it.
  • Manny Ramirez debuted at 24% likely due to his two failed drug tests and the fact that he simply wasn’t as good as many others ahead of him.
  • Lee Smith failed to reach the Hall of Fame in his final year of eligibility and will now have to turn to the Eras Committee.  The only relief pitchers who have been elected thus far are Hoyt Wilhelm, Rollie Fingers, Dennis Eckersley, Goose Gossage, and Bruce Sutter, although Trevor Hoffman is expected to make it in next year.
  • Jorge Posada, in his first appearance on the ballot failed to receive the 5% necessary to continue next year.
  • Somebody actually voted for Tim Wakefield.  Edgar Rentera received two votes and Magglio Ordonez received 3.
  • Others new to the ballot next year include: Chipper Jones, Jim Thome, Andrew Jones, Scott Rolen, Omar Vizquel, Johan Santana, Johnny Damon, and Jamie Moyer.
  • Sammy Sosa received 38 votes and just 8.6%.

Next year promises to be very exciting, as we will finally be able to determine who voted for who and who deserve to have their voting rights taken away.

8 thoughts on “The Votes Are In! What Do We Know?

  1. A good year from the STex perspective (but who really cares what I think?).

    Bagwell is the best player in Astros’ history (it might have been Cesar Cedeno, but such are the vagaries of human existence). It was good to see him get that recognition.
    I was rather late in developing an appreciation for Pudge, given that he was AL player and I spent many years only paying attention to the NL. But there is nothing I admire more than a good catcher. Catchers need to be the smartest and toughest guy on the field, and Pudge played that role for a long time. A well-deserved honor, and a marking of some sort of transition for me on the issue of PED’s. I honestly don’t know for sure that he took them, but he seems as likely as any of the 90’s players to have done so. And I discovered I really didn’t care that much – a function of the time and the rules.
    Tim Raines was just an extremely steady and talented performer for a very long time. There is a place for that in the HOF.

    Now, let’s start the battles for 2018.

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    • I will never forget the time back when he was playing for Texas, Pudge picked off Brady Anderson, who was standing on second at the time, and Brady just had this look of what the fuck just happened? Dude was an absolute monster in his prime.


      • I like to tell this story about Pudge. The Astros were playing at Minute Maid and he was behind the plate. The batter (forgot who) caught him right in the side of the head with his backswing. Pudge shook it off and got down for the next pitch. On the very next pitch he caught a foul tip square on the mask which then ricocheted into the umpire’s chest protector and knocked the wind out of him. They took a very short break to shake off the cobwebs. Pudge then said something joking to the umpire, they both laughed, and he put on the mask and got down behind the plate. No ceremony.

        That’s a real catcher.


      • The enduring characteristic I admired about Pudge was that he always, always threw a hard fastball back to the pitcher. Every single time, whether there were runners on or not. Always straight at the pitcher’s glove, too, and often harder than the prior pitch was delivered. I can’t recall ever seeing any half-hearted lobs back to the mound like you see others doing all too often (looking at you, A.J. Pierzynski).


  2. Starting in 2018 all hall of fame voters will be required to make their ballots public. The link below is an eye opening statistical analysis on how this helps the candidacies of allegedly PED bad boys Barry Bonds and Roger Clemons. Why do PED moralists dislike having their position publicly known? Isn’t the point of being a moralist to persuade people to be moral?

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