New Cardinals reliever, Oh Seung-hwan apologizes for his gambling incident

(Must watch vid)

After signing his first Major league job with the St.Louis Cardinals, reliever Oh Seung-hwan returned home after his introduction with his newfound ML team… facing a mob of reporters here at Incheon International Airport, he really regret what he did when talked about about his said gambling incident… saying “It is 100 percent my fault and the blame is all mine, for those fans and supporters I’ve let down due to the controversy I made… I don’t know how I can make it up to you, but to perform well this upcoming season. Oh’s 72-game suspension will only happen in the KBO, with the SCDP (Seoul Central District Prosecutors) fining him and Lim Chang-yong just 7 million South Korean Won (5,800 USD) due to their illegal overseas gambling in Macau… This doesn’t pose a problem on Oh’s objective and signing with a Major league team.

Even though he’s been known to not show that much emotions, it seems he’s really in a guilt-ridden mood when facing the media and his other supporters here. It also probably looks like the Cardinals knew already about his said gambling incident but still decided to acquire him anyway cause they said that Oh “was a match on what they are trying to accomplish this upcoming season“, other than that, for him to bolster their bullpen…

With Trevor Rosenthal already set as the team’s closer, it looks like Oh will be put in a set-up role alongside Kevin Siegrist (will also be used in other relief roles depending on Matheny’s decision)… Oh Seung-hwan also stated on why he picked the Cards even though other ML teams also showed some interest in him is because, “they are a very competitive organization who always has a very chance to make it to the postseason“, and he also said that “experiencing the MLB postseason and World Series is something I would like to try and accomplish“, which was the main reason why he picked this team.

Other than the postseason and having some good results, Oh is also looking forward to work with 8th time gold glove award winner Yadier Molina, in which he said in a statement “no doubt the very best catcher in the Majors“… Oh Seung-hwan’s objective is already set for this upcoming season, to achieve an ERA below 3.00, expect to see more of his splitter this upcoming 2016 MLB season (probably be used more often as his strikeout pitch)…

(Oh Seung-hwan’s 36th save this past 2015 NPB season with the Hanshin Tigers can be seen here below, he actually has 41 saves last season… I just posted this video instead of that because that 41st save vid is blurry as heck)



12 thoughts on “New Cardinals reliever, Oh Seung-hwan apologizes for his gambling incident

  1. I wonder if the Cards are taking any precautions with him then. I guess I’m a little surprised that he can come to MLB with a gambling scandal — and fresh too. That Pacific wall must be impenetrable.

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    • From what I think I understand from Ren’s previous articles, his gambling was of the casino variety and not sports related, and maybe a one or two-time thing. Apparently even this is illegal in S Korea.

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      • This is correct. By Korean law, it is illegal to gamble anywhere in the world.

        Essentially, this “scandal” is like a US baseball player being charged and suspended for gambling in Vegas because his home state doesn’t allow gambling.

        My guess is the Cardinals thought…”well, that’s a stupid fucking law.” and that it didn’t affect their thought process at all in signing him.


    • It was just a one time thing, and he even bowed and vowed that it won’t happen again. Both Oh and Lim also didn’t gamble on Baseball though, it was just some casino gambling (which are illegal for South Koreans everywhere/anywhere except in Gangwonland).

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  2. I guess he’s already drinking from the Cardinal fountain, naming Yadi as “no doubt the very best catcher in the Majors”. Baseball Prospectus did some new analysis yesterday of defensive catcher value (framing pitches, blocking pitches, and throwing out baserunners). Yadi was not rated highly the last two seasons, and while often a top ten defensive catcher, was often behind Russell Martin and Jonathan Lucroy and his brother Jose.. I only went as far as 2007, when I saw Brad Ausmus atop the list (I felt I should stop in honor of Historiophiliac).

    From 2007 to 2015 Yadi was rated lower than Russell Martin six times and ahead of Martin twice.

    What was really interesting looking at this was from 2008 – 2013 and McCann, Lucroy, Martin, Jose Molina and Yadi all consistently highly rated but with Yadi usually at the rear of that group.

    In view of the soon to be retired name of the website, kudos to Matt Wieters, tenth best defensive MLB catcher in 2011. For the Giants fans among us (poor you) Buster Posey has been rated #5, 7, 4, and 9 in the last four seasons.

    The explanation of the stats is here:
    Lists here:
    I’m not a member so I can’t customize or go deeper in the data, but I found it interesting.


    • Well, what was he supposed to say?

      Every players says this kind of stuff when they sign with a new team or are traded to a new team and they always pick the easiest targets for their vanilla platitudes…in StL, that is Molina if you are a pitcher.

      I remain skeptical on the value or even ability to measure many aspects of catcher defense…as many remain completely invisible or are conflated with pitcher performance or umpire performance.

      The error bars on any catcher-based defensive stat have to be huge, and likely are asymmetrical, under valuing what catchers do in general.

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      • Which is exactly why they say that measuring Catchers by Defensive WAR is a lot more difficult than measuring any other position player. Catcher defense while likely the most important on the field is by far the most difficult to measure. So many variables.


        • Yep.

          I don’t think it just poorly measure…I think it is also undervalued.

          How easy is it to play 150 games at any other position and be relatively fresh in the fall? Pretty easy.

          At catcher, not so much…no one catches even 140+ games/year. The most innings caught in a single season since 2010 is 1248 by Salvador Perez, which is equal to 138 9 inning games and 6 innings. The value catcher contribute on defense is so much greater than any other position player by both the physical and mental demands of the position.

          Many use counting stats to argue that Edmonds wasn’t a HOFer….and you have to use counting stats, because by rate stats, anyone putting up over 5.2 fWAR per 162 games is fucking awesome and a clear HOFer. Edmonds had 64.5 fWAR and 60.3 bWAR….in all of history, only 4 catchers have put up more fWAR and bWAR than Edmonds (Bench, Fisk, Pudge, and Carter). No Berra, no Piazza, no Cochrane, no Hartnett, no Simmons (another guy with a criminally under rated career)…just 4 guys.

          The difficulty of finding someone capable of both hitting and catching MLB pitching is immense…it is the rarest resource in baseball, and criminally under valued by WAR….in part because their contributions are just so difficult to measure…but it should be clear those contributions are not properly valued.


      • 1) I do not agree that it is impossible to quantify catcher contributions, either individually or to the team. It is certainly complicated, and needs improvement, but over time more and more will be determined and weighted.

        2) It is as likely that aspects of catching are overvalued as undervalued. I do not know why people take uncertainty as an automatic “oh, well when they understand it they will know its worth more than they believe it is today.” In reality, a lot of things turn out to be minor considerations once they are fully understood. I see as many cases for diminishment of the assumptions around catcher impact as I see for increased impact assumptions. A good example is pitch selection, which few teams actually leave in the hands of the catchers anymore, instead its by the numbers as calculated by the analytics team.

        3) While there is a lot of uncertainty in comparing catchers to other players on defense, there is considerably less certainty in comparing catchers to each other. Large portions of the job can be directly compared, and educated assumptions can be made about what is still considered ‘intangible’ based on those numbers. It is not reasonable to assume that a premium defensive catcher like Ivan Rodriguez was actually terrible at some skill that was not measured at the time. While it is possible that he was, it is equally likely that he was actually great at it, or great at some other currently unmeasured intangible that compensated for it. We certainly understand at least 50% of what a catcher does, meaning that remaining variables are of diminishing impact to the overall value picture, and will continue to shrink in terms of their ability to change that overall package as we fill in more gaps. It is very unlikely we will quantify a skill that will suddenly overturn everything we think we know about the position.


    • Fantastic link there, its really nice to see that not only have they gotten more precise, but they can extend the data so far back (to 1950 in some cases!).

      Also, not shocked that Yadi isn’t actually the greatest defensive catcher of his generation.


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