Papelbon is a coward says Machado

Featured imageI had a long article, I spent a little over an hour working on detailing the entire series of events in question.  It had video, it had quotes, it had everything.  Then I clicked on a google link to find one more picture to use as the featured image, and blammo.  My browser stopped responding and crashed, losing all my work.  I’ve now learned to smash the “Save Draft” button every 30 seconds.  So I’m going to attempt to write up a new post, but this one won’t be as long or as passionate.

So, last night, Jonathan Papelbon decided to take it upon himself to throw at Manny Machado’s head.  He did so twice.  The first time, Machado ducked out of the way.  Then he hit him with the second one.  If Manny had not stood up, it would have hit him square on the jaw.  You can see the pay here.

This was in apparent retaliation for Machado taking too long to watch a two run home-run off of Max Scherzer two innings prior which gave the Orioles a one run lead.  If he did, it’s not long enough to get picked up on video.  It should also be noted that during that at-bat, Scherzer spent every pitch glaring at the umpire, pumping his fist and making all sorts of gestures.  So I guess it’s okay for a pitcher to try to show up a batter, but when the reverse happens, we attempt to end the player’s career by throwing at his face.  Papellogic.

After the game Machado was not happy at all.

“It’s just bull(crap),” said Machado, who produced his 30th home run on the 122nd and final pitch from Max Scherzer. “A 10-year vet, with more than 10 years in the game and he’s going to go out there and throw at somebody’s head. I mean, once, and then he throws a curveball to kind of (change) the mood, then throws up at the head. It’s something that’s uncalled for. It’s bull(crap). It’s something that you don’t do. I expect more from a guy like that with the past that he has.

Papelbon after the game felt his ejection was unjustified.

“They just said they deemed it intentional, and they didn’t give me any reason,” Papelbon said. “I don’t know if they have to give me any reason or not, but perception is reality.

“If Manny thinks I hit him, then that’s what he thinks. I’m not going to sit here and go back and forth whether I did or whether I didn’t, because it doesn’t matter. If he thinks I did, that’s what he thinks.”

He then went on to actually blame the umpires.

“I was pretty surprised,” Papelbon said of the ejection. “I thought that Mark let the crowd get into it a little bit there. I think he allowed that to dictate his decision to toss me there, which as players and as umpires, we got to keep our cool out there and let the game play out for yourself.”

Teammate Bryce Harper had a very telling quote, throwing Papelbon under the buss.

“I mean, Manny freaking hit a homer and walked it off, and somebody drilled him,” Harper said. “It’s pretty tired. It’s one of those situations where it happens. I don’t know. I’ll probably get drilled tomorrow. We’ll see what happens.”

We will see what happens.  The O’s play the finale against the Nats today in just under 6 hours.  I for one would be surprised if any National player gets hit.  People like to proclaim Buck Showalter as an old school guy, but he’s consistently held the team back from these sort of shenanigans.  The team’s been the target of some questionable bean balls several times this year, most recently by the Royals and the Yankees, and Buck has refused to allow his team to retaliate.  However, it’s possible the team has decided enough is enough and wants to make a statement.  Either way, it will be interesting to see what happens, and if Papelblown makes an appearance in today’s game.  It should be noted that following his ejection, Papelbon refused to leave the dugout.  It’s my hope that he receives a nice long suspension, but I suspect he will not as MLB has yet to step up and put a stop to this sort of reckless and dangerous behavior.

32 thoughts on “Papelbon is a coward says Machado

  1. I turned to the Nats broadcast after I heard what happened. Even Ray Knight was taking issues with the location. Yes, Knight did say he was fine with hitting him, (shocker there!), but even Knight was emphatic that hitting up high was just plain indefensible.

    I obviously don’t like Papelbon (note to Nats fans, you will feel the same very soon, if you dont already), and obviously its hard to look at any division rival unbiased. So I really, really, really tried to give the benefit of the doubt. And Matt Williams comments about the double switch to bring in Paps was compelling (i.e. he knew was to be in another inning). But 2 things tipped it for me. 1) Paps has been very under control, and when he misses, it is low and away. Two pitches sailed high like that? No way. 2) Watch Paps head. He is looking right where the pitch went.

    It was intentional. And despicable. Back to Mr. Knight “We can’t get in the habit of retaliating on every Home Run”.

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  2. Machado is not wrong.

    Harper’s quote is fantastic. This is exactly what intentional HBP get you…your own guys thrown at….this is the only reason I have no sympathy for McCutchon (who I love) getting hit all the time.

    The Pirates regularly lead the league in hitting guys. They claim it is just that they pitch inside….well, either learn how to pitch inside without lapping the field in HBP or do something else…because you can’t expect teams to just keep getting plunked without deciding to hit your guys at some point. Ironically, the Pirates are super sensitive about getting hit while being nonchalant about doing the hitting.

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  3. most recently by the Royals and the Yankees

    Slow your roll there bossman, [citation needed]

    Also Papelbon is a giant dick. Machado should have charged him with his bat.

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    1. The series just before the O’s played the Royals, the O’s played the Yankees and had several players hit by pitches. The O’s said they didn’t believe they were intentional, but when the Royals hit Davis, they had enough at that point. The point I was trying to make was the team’s been getting hit a lot recently, and have not retaliated by throwing back at other teams.

      From Buck Showalter:
      “You don’t have to warn anybody if you think somebody’s throwing at him,” Showalter said. “He got hit by a pitch intentionally. Chris has certainly had his share of that. It just happened in New York twice. You get to a point to where you’re tired of getting your nose rubbed in it.
      http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/orioles/bal-royal-beatdown-orioles-hit-two-grand-slams-in-10run-eighth-to-power-past-kc-148-20150911-story.html

      From Davis:
      “I had one go behind my head the other night and then was drilled I think the next at-bat in the arm,” Davis said. “We hit a grand slam, another home run, a couple rockets. It just didn’t look right, regardless of whether it was on purpose or not.

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  4. Maybe the Nats were mad because Machado was upstaging Scherzer after he set a new record for SO’s for the team. As an aside, Max seems a little different in DC…maybe it’s the Natitude. Anyway, clearly Papelbum is not taking any time adjusting to the culture on his new team. I’m starting to feel sorry for Williams, and these kinds of shenanigans and rascality make me proud of my team.

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    1. If I had to guess, it is probably a combo of losing with high expectations and knowing your manager is an idiot and having no respect for him. Even is Brad has some managerial issues, players seem to respect him a lot and his history as a catcher likely helps his relationships with pitchers.

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  5. Maybe I am alone on this, but I have never in my life understood why any of this accepted. I mean seriously, for over a hundred years, supposedly rational adult humans have accepted the idea that there is nothing wrong with throwing a hard piece of rubber and cowhide between 90 and 100mph, and intentionally striking another human with it, as long as it was done for an acceptable “purpose”. Especially when the pitcher himself, either because he is in the AL or is an NL relief pitcher who rarely if ever bats, faces absolutely no personal ramifications. That would be like saying that if an NFL player showboats too much on a TD, it is not only accepted, but EXPECTED that he will be hit with a vicious, potentially career ending cheap shot on the next series.

    And don’t give me the rationalization that it not that cut and dried to determine “intent”. Depending on context, game situation, and the pitch itself, it’s not that hard to figure out. And if occasionally a pitcher gets suspended who wasn’t trying to hit the batter, it’s all for the greater good.

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    1. It’s also the only sport where intentionally trying to hurt someone is considered ok. No one freaks out when football/basketball/soccer/hockey players celebrate, you just move on. But in baseball, it’s like someone just had sex with your wife in front of you if you don’t immediately start sprinting around the bases.

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      1. Okay – the overall premise that it is wrong to hurt players, I totally agree with. Totally. But I have to disagree that it does not happen in football. In fact, it happens so often people don’t notice. I would easily guess there are 10 to 15 hits PER GAME that go well beyond what is necessary, and add nothing to the play. Those hits are not done out of love, they are done to cause pain.

        The difference in baseball is that “showboating” lends itself so well to direct retaliation – i.e. the batter will come to the plate. Football just doe not have any direct equivalent. But when a receiver pimps it, any “extra gusto” that can be added to a tackle later on will be added, and the defender will let that receiver know it.

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      2. I understand that there are cheap and late hits in football, DPF. That’s not what I was talking about. I was talking about the acceptance and in fact expectation of retaliatory violence. I watch alot of football, and I have never once heard an announcer say- “well, that was a cheap shot, Bob, but the defender had a responsibility to do that under the unwritten rules of football”.

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    2. You are talking about a society that, until a few decades ago (and possibly it is still true in some areas), if a black guy asked out a white girl, he stood a good chance of getting his ass kicked by a big group of white guys that weren’t even related tot he girl and then EVERYONE (white AND black people) would say it was the black guys fault because he should have known better and he had a beating comin’. Really, I wish I was making this up, but that is how fucked up we, as a people, can be.

      In contrast, throwing a baseball at someone essentially because they played well against you seems rather trivial.

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      1. Yes, I suppose that violent beatings by racists would make pitchers hitting batters rather trivial by comparison. Um..assuming that’s your point and it’s somehow relevant to an argument about whether baseball should crack down on retaliatory bean balls.

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        1. My point was that as a society, we have historically been very accepting of violent acts and have had no problem blaming the victims for making us assault them.

          She dressed provocatively, she was asking for it.

          He was in the wrong neighborhood, he was asking for it.

          He watched his HR too long, he was asking for it.

          All excuses to be violent assholes.

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      1. I would easily guess there are 10 to 15 hits PER GAME that go well beyond what is necessary, and add nothing to the play. Those hits are not done out of love, they are done to cause pain.

        I’d argue they are done to knock the guy out of the game, not because the guy caught a TD and riverdance’d in the end-zone. It’s chickenshit to do the former, but , in my opinion, childish to do the latter.

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        1. Oh I agree – I guess my overall point is in Footall you don’t have a clear cut, 100% “retaliation zone” like you do in baseball . But given the fact that Football is way worse for violence against fellow player, I am sure they would use that retaliation zone if one existed.

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